2009 Cincinnati Reds: 2005 White Sox Redux
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by Keith Glab, BaseballEvolution.com
March 17, 2009
Not many people saw the 2005 White Sox coming.
I did, and I'm not ashamed to
toot my own horn about it. The 2004 White Sox won 83 games, I
predicted the 2005 White Sox would improve
to 93, and instead they
improved to 99. I initially
had them losing three-games-to-two against the Angels in the first round of the
playoffs. When they met the Red Sox instead, I
correctly called a White Sox sweep.
The Sox and Angels did play, though in a best-of-seven series, and I revised my
pre-season prediction to
Chicago in five. I was off
by one game.
| Key Transactions |
| Acquired || Pos. |
| Ramon Hernandez || C |
| Willy Taveras || CF |
| Jacque Jones || LF |
| Daryle Ward || PH |
| Jonny Gomes || LF |
| Arthur Rhodes || RP |
| Aaron Fultz || RP |
| || |
| Departed || Pos. |
| Helicopter Patterson || CF |
| Ryan Freel || Util |
| Paul Bako || C |
| Jeremy Affeldt || RP |
| Gary Majewski || RP |
| Kent Merker || RP |
| Josh Fogg || SP |
| Matt Belisle || SP |
For whatever reason, I did not write a World Series preview that year.
I do know that I thought the Sox would beat the Astros easily, though I would
not have predicted a sweep until perhaps when Roger Clemens injured himself in
the Game One White Sox victory.
My predictions do not usually go so well, to say the least. But
sometimes, you have a moment of clarity when doing prognostications. It's
how Scott must have felt when he
predicted the Tigers to make the playoffs in
2006 after they had endured a dozen straight losing seasons. Or
how Eric must have felt when he foresaw that Jason Marquis and Ted Lilly,
coming off poor 2006 campaigns,
combine for a 4.45 ERA and 29 wins with the 2007 Cubs (they actually
combined for a 4.20 ERA and 27 wins). Or how Nostradamus felt when he
predicted the London fire of 1666.
The point of all this bragging is that I am having a similar moment of
clarity with regards to the 2009 Cincinnati Reds. And with good reason:
the 2009 Cincinnati Reds are eerily similar to the 2005 World Champion Chicago
Between 1997 and 2004, no White Sox players started 100 or more games at
catcher in a single season, and they often featured three-or-four headed
monsters behind the dish. A.J. Pierzynski has been no better than a
league-average catcher since he signed with the White Sox in 2005, but he
provided stability for a pitching staff that had never before known whom they would be
throwing to on a given day.
The Reds had catching stability from 2001-2005 under the leadership of
Jason LaRue, who, because of his excellent throwing arm, probably was a little
more valuable during that period than A.J. Pierzynski has been from 2005-2008.
But over the past three seasons, the Reds have endured the same three-headed
monster catcher nonsense as the Sox did in that pre-Pierzynski era; although
Dave Ross did start 108 games in 2007, some Reds fans probably wish he hadn't,
as he hit just .203 with a .271 OBP while playing good defense.
Newly-acquired Ramon Hernandez was a better catcher in his prime than either
Pierzynski or LaRue. Between 2003 and 2006, he never finished with an OPS+
below 107, and as recently as 2006, The Fielding Bible Volume II
credited him with saving more runs than any catcher in baseball. While
there's no doubt that he has declined significantly on both sides of the ball
the past two years, Hernandez is playing for a contract for the first time since
2005, could be battling for a playoff spot for the first time since 2005, and
will be playing in one of the best hitter's parks in baseball. The effort
and results should improve to at least the point where he becomes the
stabilizing force that a declining Pierzynski was for the White Sox over the
past four seasons. As food for thought, the Reds were 14-11 when Chad
Kreuter-wannabe Ryan Hannigan started last season (60-77 without), giving them a
far more capable backup than the Sox had in Chris Widger.
|Key to the Season|
Jerry Hairston Jr.|
JHJ hit .189 in '07 and .326 in '08. Baker will use him either way, so which JHJ shows up will be key
Hit .289 in '07 and 26 HR in '08. Put it all together at age 26 and his atrocious defense can be overlooked
The infield is probably where we see the weakest parallels between the 2005
White Sox and the 2009 Reds, but there are signs and omens there nonetheless.
Paul Konerko was the only slugger to be feared on the 2005 White Sox, as only two
of their hitters amassed as many as five adjusted batting runs: Jermaine Dye at
12.4 and Konerko at 30.4. The Reds' first baseman, Joey Votto,
figures to be in the same boat. He is the only returning Red to have
double-digit batting runs last season (17.8) but at 25-years old, he could
easily approach Konerko's figure from 2005. The '05 Sox proved that a
lineup full of sluggers is not necessary even in a hitter's park when you have
good pitching and the ability to manufacture runs.
Of course, the reagent for good pitching is good defense. The 2004
White Sox already had a solid infield defense, then upgraded that further by
having shortstop Juan Uribe (who was a super-sub in 2004) and second baseman
Tadahito Iguchi replace Jose Valentin and Willie Harris. The result
was an upgrade both offensively and defensively, even though neither Uribe nor
Iguchi played spectacularly in '05.
The Reds have one of the best defenders in the game at second base in Brandon
Phillips, but Votto, Jeff Keppinger, and especially Edwin Encarnacion really let
down pitchers with their poor glovework. Votto and Encarnacion remain
though their potential on offense outweighs the damage they can do at the
infield corners, particularly in Votto's case. Although the Reds did
not go out and sign a Japanese infielder in the offseason, Alex Gonzalez, a
sound defender who is excellent at turning the double play, returns from injury
and replaces the Keppinger disaster at shortstop. Gonzalez has generally
been better fielding plays to his right, which will help him get to the balls
that EE cannot. At the very least, the Reds won't have two infielders
shrugging their shoulders and scratching their heads any time a ground ball is
hit to the left side of the infield this year. AGotM should also give a
slight offensive upgrade over Keppinger a la Iguchi, and there is a decent
chance that super sub Jerry Hairston Jr. instead becomes the full-time shortstop
a la Uribe, who also overachieved in '04 and went on to be decent offensively
and excellent defensively in '05.
The big news of the White Sox offseson between 2004 and 2005 was that they
lost outfielders Magglio Ordonez (to free agency) and Carlos Lee (traded
to the Brewers for Scott Podsednik and Luis Vizcaino). I was one of the
few people who approved of the Lee trade. I'd always thought Lee was
overrated as a low-OBP guy who drove in lots of runs with Frank Thomas and
Magglio Ordonez hitting ahead of him, and the Sox hadn't had a productive
leadoff man for an entire season since they last won a division title in 2000
(Ray Durham). Vizcaino was a solid part of the bullpen, but
Podsednik was the key to the offense, with his .351 OBP and 59 stolen bases that
allowed the Sox to score the one or two runs they needed when they faced tough
pitching. The Sox went 80-44 in Podsednik's starts and 19-19 otherwise.
He was perhaps the biggest difference from the 83-win season of 2003 and the
99-win season of 2005. While the Sox scored 124 fewer runs in '05, they
were shut out fewer times (8 to 6) and held to just one run the same number of
times (13 both seasons). Podsednik provided them with the consistent
offense that you need when you have a good pitching staff that keeps the
opposing score low. In fact, Pods only participated in four of those six
The Reds lost two big sluggers as well in Adam Dunn and Ken Griffey.
Who is the Scott Podsednik that will give the Reds the leadoff hitter that they
lacked in 2008 (Reds leadoff hitters had a .326 OBP and stole 26 bases in 38
attempts [68%] in '08)? That would be Willy Taveras. "Whoa," you
say. "Taveras had a .308 OBP last year. Sure he's fast, but how is
he supposed to help?" You just haven't been paying attention, have you?
Podsednik was also coming off a down year in OBP in 2004 (.313) but he did swipe
a career-high 70 bases in 83 attempts for an 84% success rate. He'd had a
career-high .379 OBP the year before. Taveras, likewise, had his best season
ever on the base paths, stealing 68 bases in 75 tries, a 91% success ratio.
He, too, posted a career-high .367 OBP the year before. Other than one
obvious physical difference, Taveras and Podsednik are the same player.
Like those Sox, the rest of the Reds' outfield isn't going to blow you away.
Jay Bruce figures to put up similar numbers to what Dye did in 2005, unless the
22-year old phenom develops even more quickly than we anticipate. Chris
Dickerson is Aaron Rowand; a key for the Reds is for Dusty Baker to recognize
that Dickerson should play center while Taveras, being the good little Podsednik
that he is, belongs in left. Rowand had played as often in the corners as
in center before Ozzie Guillen took the helm, and he became one of the best
defensive centerfielders in the league upon his permanent installation there.
Norris Hopper, Jacque Jones, Daryle Ward, and Jonny Gomes are all outfielders
who have had success in the past, but not in 2008. Whoever comes out of
that mix can't play much worse than the '05 Sox reserve outfielders - Timo
Perez, Carl Everett, and Brian Anderson - did.
Like the 2005 Sox, the Reds will score just enough runs for their starting
pitching to do its thing. The 2004 White Sox saw Jason Grilli, Dan Wright, Arnie Munoz, Josh Stewart,
Jon Rauch, an Neal Cotts combine for 25 starts in which they allowed 117 earned
runs in 116 innings for a combined ERA of 9.08. Scott Schoeneweis added 19
starts of a 5.56 ERA. Together, this Sensational Seven started 44 games
and compiled a 7.35 ERA over 227.2 innings.
Endured 3rd-worst run support in MLB among pitchers with at least 160 IP (4.98)
He even looks a bit like Kingman
It was pretty clear that if the Sox could replace those starts and those
innings with mere competence, they could form an elite starting pitching staff.
They had already acquired Freddy Garcia and Jose Contreras midseason in 2004
towards this end. Kenny Williams then added
formerly-overrated-then-suddenly-underrated veteran Orlando Hernandez to eat
some back-of the-rotation innings and had a promising 21-year old in Brandon
McCarthy ready to mount a 4.17 ERA over ten starts.
The result of this modest overhaul was a drop in team ERA from 4.91 in 2004
to 3.61 in 2005.
The 2008 Reds had four solid-to-good workhorse starters in their rotation in
Aaron Harang, Edinson Volquez, Johnny Cueto, and Bronson Arroyo. Josh Fogg,
Homer Bailey, Matt Belisle, Daryl Thompson, and Adam PettyJohn, however,
collaborated for 32 outings in the fifth starter's role. They allowed a
combined 132 earned runs in 144.2 innings, which amounts to an ERA of 8.21.
(8.21 is the exact middle point of 9.08 and 7.35, for those of you keeping
score at home).
Who will take over as fifth starter in 2009? The Reds acquired Micah Owings,
he of the 17-3 minor league record and 3.19 ERA, as the major piece of the Adam
Dunn deal. He also went 14-10 with a 4.14 ERA, 161 strikeouts, and 70
walks in his first 215.1 major league innings (37 starts) before an injury
derailed his effectiveness last season. If you think that injury was
lingering from a month earlier, try 12-8, 4.03, 129/56 over his first 178.1 innings (31
starts). There is no team in baseball that wouldn't love that kind of
production from their fifth starter, particularly when that fifth starter is
also the second-best hitter on the team.
Still, Owings was indeed injured last year, so he cannot be counted on as a
sure thing. Homer Bailey and Daryl Thompson were both rushed to the major
leagues. A glance at their minor league numbers reveals that either one of
these 23-year olds might be ready to perform at least solidly at the major
league level. If push comes to shove, Nick Masset would still represent a
significant upgrade over last year's mess.
Many people would be surprised to learn that the Reds ranked 9th in baseball
with a 3.81 bullpen ERA last season. That's because while they had
several relievers in the low-3s in ERA, they did not have any super-dominant
bullpen guy. Francisco Cordero is always a threat to be that man, and Bill
Bray and Jared Burton each have the strikeout ratios and optimal age to break
out as dominant relievers themselves. The Reds lost Jeremy Affeldt,
who was a good left-hander for them, and replaced him with Arthur Rhodes, who
was somehow even better last season. Aaron Fultz had been a dominant
reliever before missing 2008 with injury and provides the team with a great
third lefty out of the pen if healthy. They also jettisoned Gary Majewski,
who single-handedly kept the Reds out of the top 5 in bullpen ERA. Ramon
Ramirez did well in four starts for the club last year and figures to perform
even better as a reliever or fill in as fifth starter if the rotation hits a run
of bad luck.
Chicago's 2005 bullpen featured career years from journeymen Cliff
Pollitte and Dustin Hermanson and the homegrown Neal Cotts. They also got
a big boost in the second half from rookie Bobby Jenks. I certainly don't
think that the Reds will use three different closers the way that the 2005 White
Sox did, but the Reds do have the breakout candidates to give them as
deep a bullpen as the Sox had in '05 and allow them to replace Cordero should he
go 2006 on them. Rookies Josh Roenicke (160 K in 131.2 minor league IP) or Carlos
Fisher (3.04 ERA since converting to relief) could break in as thinner versions
of Jenks this year.
|Reds Team Capsule|
January 9, 2012: Larkin Heads to Cooperstown: Today, Cincinnati Reds shortstop Barry Larkin joined Chicago Cubs third baseman Ron Santo as players inducted to the 2012 class of the National Baseball Hall of Fame. Both Larkin (2010) and Santo (2006) gained entry into the Baseball Evolution Hall of Fame in their first year of eligibility.
Jeff Bagwell increased his voting percentage from 41% in 2011 to 56% in 2012, his awesome lifetime numbers offsetting the controversy of his era. Jack Morris, who received two-thirds of the vote up from 53.5% last year, has two more seasons of Hall of Fame eligibility. His lackluster career numbers are being offset by feel-good intangibles.
Finally, we look at the managers of these two clubs. Ozzie
Guillen entered his second season managing the White Sox in 2005 while John B.
"Dusty" Baker enters his second managing the Reds this year. Both managers
are inflammatory and controversial: you may love them or you may hate them, but
odds are good that if you're a baseball fan, you have a strong opinion on these
two managers one way or the other. Back in that 2005 preview,
I mentioned that Ozzie Guillen would be a key to the 2005 team based on his
personnel decisions and use of the stolen base sign. This year, Baker will
be a key to the Reds based on his personnel decisions and whether or not he
abuses his young starting pitching.
If these Cincinnati Reds make the same 16-win improvement that the 2005 White
Sox enjoyed, that will put them at 90 wins, which I'm convinced would win the NL
Central this year. Does a lot have to go right for that improvement to
take place? Most certainly. But a lot had to go right for the Sox to
make that jump in 2005. A lot had to go right for the Tigers to make their
24-game jump in 2006 and a lot had to go right for the Rays to make their 31-win
jump last season. The Reds have enough players entering their prime
seasons and enough stable veterans peppered in to certainly make what, in
comparison to Tampa Bay last year, would be a modest jump to claim an NL Central
division that has taken a big step backwards.
Then all they have to do is go 10-1 in the postseason, and they'll really be
doppelgangers of the 2005 White Sox.
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